About the ATI Radeon 8500 Video Card? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Weezer_Blue · Mar 02, 2005, 03:02 AM // 03:02

hehe... get a new computer. you can get a decent one for 1,000 or less.

Loviatar · Mar 02, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue

hehe... get a new computer. you can get a decent one for 1,000 or less.

not everybody has that to toss around

i think an unhelpful post like that is just the spam they were talking about warning people for

edit

the only thing to do is try

stumpy · Mar 02, 2005, 04:46 AM // 04:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice Heart

Ok, well I downloaded it fine, but I was not able to view it because i'm not the admin. of my computer. We have Windows XP and all my family members have their own Log In, my Mom however is the Administrator, and I will have to get her to download it. I have some info that might help you guys about my video card. Ok, everytime I go to play previews, or watch music video's, clips, trailers, etc...They all play just fine, would that mean my game would somewhat work ok, or does it have anything to do with my card?

No that doesn't mean gameplay will work fine. You still have to test it in the actual game (client). The videos are optimized for the web and no pre req for video cards. Try to talk to the admin (dad) or whomever is your admin and ask to install the client. It will bring you to nothing more than a login screen, which daily I desperately wish would say gameplay available. If your graphics are fine in that then you will be able to play, but you may experience some glitchy play. Here's hopin you are okay. Everybody wants to buy the top end video card, but unfortuneately ... can't justify paying the price (<<< has 2 kids). Justafication (wifey) doesn't always agree with me.

Good luck and hope to see you out there!

Nova · Mar 02, 2005, 05:21 AM // 05:21

I got a 64 MB graphic card for like $60. It was a GeForce 4 or something i dont rememeber. I got a 128 MB graphic card (Really good) for $99.99 at CompUSA. Its a called like Verto with orange around it with this chick melting her pruple skin and shes a machine underneith. its liek a GeForce 4 FX (or MX) not sure 5500. Its AWESOME. it is a great deal. its $122.99 at Best Buy (they suck i found since i looked a lil walk to CompUSA and found it cheaper) so but it at CompUSA!

EDIT: Here is the graphic card I jsut bought. If you want youc could search the site even more. I will look for more too. Verto GeForce FX 5500 Video Card, 8x AGP, 128MB DDR

Here is anotehr one, cheaper , but its only a 64 MB HOWEVER that is what is recomended for GuildWars.

Verto GeForce FX 5200 Video Card, 8x AGP, 64MB DDR

Ok, this is the card I had before my new 128 one. I got it like from the guy who made mt computer. This card isn't too expensive for a Graphic card at all and works graet.Here is what I think my old one was.

Hope I was helpful.

stumpy · Mar 02, 2005, 07:27 AM // 07:27

While on the topic I thought I may as well pop in the good ol' guildwars faq just in case anybody needs to check there settings. I wasn't affected and my card is on the list but I made the modification anyways to prevent and possible future problems I might have had, also the more that know the better the gameplay...

Quote:

From Guildwars FAQ

I am using a NVidia GeForce FX video card and am having trouble seeing some terrain features.

There is a known issue with NVidia GeForce FX vide cards (GPUs) and driver version 61.77 when the user has changed "Image Settings" to "High performance". Some of the problems include missing terrain. The solution is to change your video settings to "High quality". To do this, follow these instructions: On Windows XP:
Open Display Properties control panel.
Click Settings tab
Click Advanced button
Click GeForce "Version" tab
Select Performance and Quality Settings in left window
In the Global Driver Settings window select Image Settings
Move the slider to the right to "High quality"
The video cards/GPUs that are affected by this problem are:

GeForce FX 5200
GeForce FX 5200 Ultra [COLOR=DarkRed]<<--- my 128MB Video Card, wifey say no to 6600GT[/COLOR]

GeForce FX 5500
GeForce FX 5700
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
GeForce FX 5700LE
GeForce FX 5900
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra
GeForce FX 5900 XT
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra
GeForce PCX 5300
GeForce PCX 5750
GeForce PCX 5900

BlackArrow · Mar 02, 2005, 02:16 PM // 14:16

Quote:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...131-411&depa=1

Thats the card I have and it works great. If you have a PCI slot in you computer, this is a good buy.

Ellestar · Mar 02, 2005, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice Heart

What video cards do you all recomend? (Keep the prices low, I search for good prices, I hate spending alot of money on things.)

AFAIK for now optimal card for games is GeForce 6600 GT (for AGP slot) if you have at least 1.8-2.0 Ghz CPU and 256 Mb RAM (no reason to take that fast video card if you have a slower comp)
If it's too costly take GeForce 6600. GeForce 6200 isn't practically usable for gaming so it's a big no-no.

Geforce 4xxx and 5xxx are significantly slower (especially in new games with a lot of shaders etc.) than GeForce 6600 GT or GeForce 6800. ATi doesn't have something that is as good as GeForce 6600 GT for a same price AFAIK.

I played Guild Wars on my old GeForce 4 Ti 4200 128 Mb and it was fine (P4-2400, 1 Gb RAM). But now i upgraded video to GeForce 6800 - probably too fast video card for my processor, but IMHO during an upgrade it's more efficient to make a system a little unbalanced in one aspect than to upgrade all parts.

I don't recommend to play games on GeForce 4 MX series (or older video cards) because it's significantly slower than even GeForce 4 Ti.

Ellestar · Mar 02, 2005, 03:21 PM // 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackArrow

Thats the card I have and it works great. If you have a PCI slot in you computer, this is a good buy.

PCI slot video card? With 256 Mb RAM? IMHO it's a waste of money. 128 Mb video card will be as good because PCI bus is too slow for modern video cards anyway (don't confuse PCI and PCI-E)
Besides, it's outdated. It supports only DirectX 8.1 (so only Shader 1.4 at best, and GeForce 6xxx video cards support Shader 3.0)
Not to mention perfomance, it will be hard to find charts that compare this card with new video cards (it's too old), but it may easily be 7-10 times slower than GeForce 6600 GT in some new games (5 times slower for sure). Most likely it will be somewhere near a minimum requirments for Guild Wars, but it's a waste of money anyway - if you buy it, then you still need to uprgrade it ASAP

If a computer have an AGP slot, then it's a lot better to buy AGP video card instead of PCI one.

Ice Heart · Mar 02, 2005, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumpy

No that doesn't mean gameplay will work fine. You still have to test it in the actual game (client). The videos are optimized for the web and no pre req for video cards. Try to talk to the admin (dad) or whomever is your admin and ask to install the client. It will bring you to nothing more than a login screen, which daily I desperately wish would say gameplay available. If your graphics are fine in that then you will be able to play, but you may experience some glitchy play. Here's hopin you are okay. Everybody wants to buy the top end video card, but unfortuneately ... can't justify paying the price (<<< has 2 kids). Justafication (wifey) doesn't always agree with me.

Good luck and hope to see you out there!

Yea, well I guess that is all i'm going to have to do is try, and if it does not work i'll have to get me another video card. I apriciate all the help all you have been, and thanks to everyone who supplyed me some information. I Just Found out that the Card I have, was made back in January 9, 1997! That seriously sucks knowing how many new and better cards they have came out with. The card I have was made to perfect the graphics of 3D and 2D games, but that does not matter now that they have newer games with more Hightec. graphics? I have not played Everquest on my Computer. I allways went over to my friends house to play. Justin Mclain, or on Everquest his character was Adriel Shadowbane, Darkelf Necro. I have not played any games on my PC. I guess I will go check out what Cards I can find.

Loviatar · Mar 02, 2005, 07:10 PM // 19:10

WARNING ABOUT 5200

every top gaming magazine and web review says to stay away from that like the plague for very bad performance

they also dont like the 5500

STUMPY

if and when you get that 6600GT you will find out it makes a world of difference

i had to wait until the price went down and my maker of choice (leadtek) put one out but the difference on 3dmark 2005 goes from a slide show at 407 points with the 5600 ultra (got under warranty replacement for a 4200ti that fried the ram)

to 2746 and looks like something nice

almost 6800 performance at less than half the price

Ice Heart · Mar 02, 2005, 07:27 PM // 19:27

I Beleive I have found the answer to my Video Card problem. I Was searching around for the ATI Radeon 9000 Video Card, the Recommended Video Card for Guild Wars, and I looked at Wal-Mart, and they have them for $72.72. What are your opinions on this? You have all helped me through my troublesome questions, so could you all let me know if you all think this is a good deal or not.

Loviatar · Mar 02, 2005, 07:30 PM // 19:30

what version of 9000?

they go from pro to crippled (le)

google it with either review or roundup or shootout to see how it actually does

EDIT

quick check says you can do better for he price or get equal for less

it is 3 years old now and was aimed at the GF4MX market which is very low end for market competition as the MX does not have he shader setup used today for effects

Ice Heart · Mar 02, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34

I don't know about the one I posted, but there is also these;

-ATI Radeon 9200SE AGP 128 MB Graphics Card for only $69.88

-ATI Radeon 9200SE PCI 128 MB Graphics Card for only $69.88

What do you all think about these. Are they even worth looking at?

Loviatar · Mar 02, 2005, 07:36 PM // 19:36

check youe motherboard to see if you have an AGP slot as that is much better than PCI

that also is a very low end card

Ice Heart · Mar 02, 2005, 07:37 PM // 19:37

Is that good or bad, and would it play Guild Wars?

Loviatar · Mar 02, 2005, 07:41 PM // 19:41

it is above but very close to the minimum

i found a 6600 CARD FOR 109 dollars at newegg.com which is well above the minimum

Ice Heart · Mar 02, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Why would a 9200 not be better than a 6600? Does it even have anything to do with the numbers? I'm starting to get lost.

Loviatar · Mar 02, 2005, 07:46 PM // 19:46

9000 series ia ati

6000 series is nvidia

each separate company has a complete and separate model numbering system not related to the other

EDIT

the 6600 is maybe 3-5 times better?

BlackArrow · Mar 02, 2005, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellestar

PCI slot video card? With 256 Mb RAM? IMHO it's a waste of money. 128 Mb video card will be as good because PCI bus is too slow for modern video cards anyway (don't confuse PCI and PCI-E)
Besides, it's outdated. It supports only DirectX 8.1 (so only Shader 1.4 at best, and GeForce 6xxx video cards support Shader 3.0)
Not to mention perfomance, it will be hard to find charts that compare this card with new video cards (it's too old), but it may easily be 7-10 times slower than GeForce 6600 GT in some new games (5 times slower for sure). Most likely it will be somewhere near a minimum requirments for Guild Wars, but it's a waste of money anyway - if you buy it, then you still need to uprgrade it ASAP

If a computer have an AGP slot, then it's a lot better to buy AGP video card instead of PCI one.

I know its an old card but my comp doesn't have AGP or PCI-E only PCI (stupid Dell). This was the best card I could get for PCI and it still works incredibly well in GW. I experienced no problems with this card.

It's only temporary until I buy a new copmuter anyways ( within the next year or so) then i'll buy somthing much better.

Ionly recommend this card if your only option for video card slot is PCI, if you have PCI-Express or AGP slots , there are much, muich better cards out there.

Ice Heart · Mar 02, 2005, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Ok, I'm going to list a few of the more popular Video Cards, and if any of you can let me know wich one would be best to buy I sure would apriciate it? I can find even more but those were listed pretty popular. I don't know though?

1- Radeon 9200 128 MB APG for $81.44

2- ATI Radeon 9200SE PCI 128 MB Graphics Card for $69.88

3- ATI Radeon 9200SE AGP 128 MB Graphics Card for $69.88

4- ATI Radeon 7000 PCI 32 MB Graphics Card for $49.88

5- ATI Radeon 7000 AGP 32 MB Graphics Card for $44.88

6- Radeon 9000 64 MB AGP Graphics Card for $72.72

Mar 02, 2005, 03:02 AM // 03:02	#21
Weezer_Blue Elite Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Just a Box in a Cage Guild: Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]	hehe... get a new computer. you can get a decent one for 1,000 or less. __________________

Mar 02, 2005, 05:21 AM // 05:21	#24
Nova Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CA Guild: Lords Of Kryta (LoK) Profession: R/Me	I got a 64 MB graphic card for like $60. It was a GeForce 4 or something i dont rememeber. I got a 128 MB graphic card (Really good) for $99.99 at CompUSA. Its a called like Verto with orange around it with this chick melting her pruple skin and shes a machine underneith. its liek a GeForce 4 FX (or MX) not sure 5500. Its AWESOME. it is a great deal. its $122.99 at Best Buy (they suck i found since i looked a lil walk to CompUSA and found it cheaper) so but it at CompUSA! EDIT: Here is the graphic card I jsut bought. If you want youc could search the site even more. I will look for more too. Verto GeForce FX 5500 Video Card, 8x AGP, 128MB DDR Here is anotehr one, cheaper , but its only a 64 MB HOWEVER that is what is recomended for GuildWars. Verto GeForce FX 5200 Video Card, 8x AGP, 64MB DDR Ok, this is the card I had before my new 128 one. I got it like from the guy who made mt computer. This card isn't too expensive for a Graphic card at all and works graet.Here is what I think my old one was. Hope I was helpful. Last edited by Nova; Mar 02, 2005 at 05:57 AM // 05:57..

Mar 02, 2005, 07:30 PM // 19:30	#32
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	what version of 9000? they go from pro to crippled (le) google it with either review or roundup or shootout to see how it actually does EDIT quick check says you can do better for he price or get equal for less it is 3 years old now and was aimed at the GF4MX market which is very low end for market competition as the MX does not have he shader setup used today for effects Last edited by Loviatar; Mar 02, 2005 at 07:34 PM // 19:34..

Mar 02, 2005, 07:10 PM // 19:10	#30
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	WARNING ABOUT 5200 every top gaming magazine and web review says to stay away from that like the plague for very bad performance they also dont like the 5500 STUMPY if and when you get that 6600GT you will find out it makes a world of difference i had to wait until the price went down and my maker of choice (leadtek) put one out but the difference on 3dmark 2005 goes from a slide show at 407 points with the 5600 ultra (got under warranty replacement for a 4200ti that fried the ram) to 2746 and looks like something nice almost 6800 performance at less than half the price

Mar 02, 2005, 07:27 PM // 19:27	#31
Ice Heart Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kingsport, Tennessee	I Beleive I have found the answer to my Video Card problem. I Was searching around for the ATI Radeon 9000 Video Card, the Recommended Video Card for Guild Wars, and I looked at Wal-Mart, and they have them for $72.72. What are your opinions on this? You have all helped me through my troublesome questions, so could you all let me know if you all think this is a good deal or not.

Mar 02, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34	#33
Ice Heart Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kingsport, Tennessee	I don't know about the one I posted, but there is also these; -ATI Radeon 9200SE AGP 128 MB Graphics Card for only $69.88 -ATI Radeon 9200SE PCI 128 MB Graphics Card for only $69.88 What do you all think about these. Are they even worth looking at?

Mar 02, 2005, 07:36 PM // 19:36	#34
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	check youe motherboard to see if you have an AGP slot as that is much better than PCI that also is a very low end card

Mar 02, 2005, 07:37 PM // 19:37	#35
Ice Heart Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kingsport, Tennessee	Is that good or bad, and would it play Guild Wars?

Mar 02, 2005, 07:41 PM // 19:41	#36
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	it is above but very close to the minimum i found a 6600 CARD FOR 109 dollars at newegg.com which is well above the minimum

Mar 02, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43	#37
Ice Heart Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kingsport, Tennessee	Why would a 9200 not be better than a 6600? Does it even have anything to do with the numbers? I'm starting to get lost.

Mar 02, 2005, 07:46 PM // 19:46	#38
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	9000 series ia ati 6000 series is nvidia each separate company has a complete and separate model numbering system not related to the other EDIT the 6600 is maybe 3-5 times better?

Mar 02, 2005, 10:20 PM // 22:20	#40
Ice Heart Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kingsport, Tennessee	Ok, I'm going to list a few of the more popular Video Cards, and if any of you can let me know wich one would be best to buy I sure would apriciate it? I can find even more but those were listed pretty popular. I don't know though? 1- Radeon 9200 128 MB APG for $81.44 2- ATI Radeon 9200SE PCI 128 MB Graphics Card for $69.88 3- ATI Radeon 9200SE AGP 128 MB Graphics Card for $69.88 4- ATI Radeon 7000 PCI 32 MB Graphics Card for $49.88 5- ATI Radeon 7000 AGP 32 MB Graphics Card for $44.88 6- Radeon 9000 64 MB AGP Graphics Card for $72.72